I want to ask about swearing language in Ukrainian. I've heard that it's overflown with Russian cusses and wanted to ask if there's such a thing as a Ukrainian or, perhaps, West Ukrainian cursing at all?
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Personally I can recall "холєра" from Ukrainian curses (basically it's a name of a disease - cholera). However there may be lots of other words I'm not aware of.– Artemix ModCommented Feb 14, 2017 at 13:27
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My question is if i can ask it on the main site, not on meta.– P. Vowk ModCommented Feb 14, 2017 at 13:33
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@P.Vovk Even though your first question was shut down I have a feeling that the main site would benefit from such questions. BTW, have you checked out "Українська мова без табу. Словник нецензурної лексики та її відповідників. Леся Ставицька"?– s0nataCommented Feb 15, 2017 at 19:06
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@s0nata I think the site benefits from me being on it in general hhh but I feel like they'll ban me soon, everyone is aggressive (IT guys, I suppose). I've heard about the book, but I didn't really check it out. I've found it scanned on padaread.com, is it OK, have they granted free access to it at Harvard?– P. Vowk ModCommented Feb 15, 2017 at 19:40
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I think you can, however try to avoid "too broad" questions (like "give me the full list of curses" etc.)
Many linguists think that expelling curses from the dictionaries during Soviet times was wrong, because it is a part of a language.
For example, during 1903-1909 3rd edition of Dahl dictionary was released which contained many swear words added by the editor, professional linguist Иван (Ян) Александрович Бодуэн де Куртенэ (see here). This edition of the dictionary was never printed again during Soviet times.
«Лексикограф не имеет права урезывать и кастрировать „живой язык“. Раз известные слова существуют в умах громадного большинства народа и беспрестанно выливаются наружу, лексикограф обязан занести их в словарь, хотя бы против этого восставали и притворно негодовали все лицемеры и тартюфы, являющиеся обыкновенно большими любителями сальностей по секрету…»
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Thanks, i'll wait for one more person to approve and then ask it on the main page– P. Vowk ModCommented Feb 14, 2017 at 13:41
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2I agree with you, @Artemix. As long as it is specific and about the Ukrainian language, it should be fine.– s0nataCommented Feb 14, 2017 at 16:36
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@s0nata very well, i'll think of the articulation and post it. Thanks to both of you, guys.– P. Vowk ModCommented Feb 14, 2017 at 17:14
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1In addition to this answer, one doesn't need to mask the swear words with asterisks or what. Provided that we discuss the linguistic aspects of the language, not blame on someone. :) Commented Feb 14, 2017 at 21:07
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@bytebuster I've asked a question about it, but it was "too broad". I think it was you who said it's too broad and suggested to close it. I don't know what exactly to ask, even though I think it's a very interesting topic.– P. Vowk ModCommented Feb 15, 2017 at 19:12
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@P.Vovk, it was too broad because it asked for an open-ended list. Everyone would answer you a subset of such list. It has nothing to do about masking the swear words with asterisks. Commented Feb 15, 2017 at 19:39
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@bytebuster I know, I know, everyone is way too logical here.– P. Vowk ModCommented Feb 15, 2017 at 19:41
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@P.Vovk maybe you can ask for a resource on this topic? If you find something non-clear there you then can ask again here for the more details.– Artemix ModCommented Feb 15, 2017 at 19:55
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@Artemix Sonata has given me a hint: padaread.com/?book=54260&pg=9, so I'll maybe do what you're saying me to do. It would be silly though, to ask about each separate word, as it is silly to ask about all of them in general.– P. Vowk ModCommented Feb 15, 2017 at 20:01
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@P.Vovk Very fundamental book. However the site is not recommended to visit without adblock of some kind. My tablet was bombed with suggestions to install .apk files or to "improve performance" on each new page.– Artemix ModCommented Feb 16, 2017 at 8:55